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Rapid Response 47 is another Trump white alt spewing racist shit

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (60 children)

Catholic as far as I know is the only religion where non believer aren't damned to hell.

So, I did exaggerate a bit sort of. Under Catholism, the virtuous non-beliver and unbaptised innocents go to Limbo, which is not exactly Hell. But Limbo is not a happy place either. It is like an offshoot of hell, minus the explicit pain and punishment of actual hell. It's residents are described as suffering by their separation from God.

Also Catholics are most definitely not the only religion that doesnt condemn non-believer to hell or the equivalent. There are plenty of religions without even a concept of hell or an analogous eternal punishment, so that's simply not the case.

The pope doesn't have influence over leader around the world.

Horseshit. He doesn't have control, but to pretend that he has no influence is at best ignorant and at worst dishonest.

I mean he ask for the end of war in Gaza or ukraine and look how it goes.

So because violent leaders don't follow his directives, that means his influence is null?

They never hold scientific progress

They have historically been patrons and stewards of the sciences. However there are moments in history where conflict between doctrine and scientific discovery have led to the church using its overwhelming power to suppress the science and condemn its discoverer(s). Galileo and his Heliocentric model is obviously the most notable of such cases.

Meanwhile Muslim [...】

See, you misunderstood the point. My point was about how easy it is to frame facts in a way that makes what would otherwise be seen as normal religious activities and history to us make a religion seem abnormal and menacing in comparison. This was a critique of that framing, not of the Catholic church. You then got super defensive and then doubled down on this framing against Muslims.

Catholicism is fine. Silly but fine. Islam is fine. Silly but fine. More or less all religions are silly but fine until fundamentalists, bigots, jihadists (Muslim or otherwise), theocrats, or or any other prick that uses religion to push their terrible fucking ideas onto others or to justify hurting others gets involved. Islamic states are a problem, no doubt. But frankly any religious theocracy is, and for the exact same reasons.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Under Catholism, the virtuous non-beliver and unbaptised innocents go to Limbo, which is not exactly Hell. But Limbo is not a happy place either. It is like an offshoot of hell, minus the explicit pain and punishment of actual hell. It's residents are described as suffering by their separation from God.

How can anyone present this nonsense with a straight face? There is no evidence of any of this, some guy made up this wildly implausible story of some invisible realm, so he could preach it to a bunch of gullible dopes, and convince them to give him their money. And those dummies who bought in, now have to convince others to be as stupid as they are, and also give their guy some money.

ALL religion is about taking money from stupid people, and that's what it's always been about.

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